Curse

Jas · Dec 30, 2005, 04:34 AM // 04:34

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Originally Posted by Asplode

pvp and pve:
If your monk doesn't put mending on you, it is your responsibility to let him know, and remind him to put mending on you constantly until mending is on you.

Mending? No... I won't put mending on you even if you asked for it. It just slows down my energy regeneration and I do need every point of energy to keep you standing up and fighting. That rule might work if the team had at least 2 healing monks. The other could be assistant healer with mending and such nice tricks, but the other must be "reactive"... Word of Healing+Orison of Healing casted one after another on same target has saved many a butt from certain death (ask my Guildees!). And Healing Breeze is quite useful too

W/Mo's use mending... and other ?/Mo's, but I wouldn't recommend for any Mo/?'s to use it.

Jas · Dec 30, 2005, 04:48 AM // 04:48

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Originally Posted by Rico Carridan

A group of 8 people with 3 leaders will never get anywhere. I don't mind discussing strategy, especially before a mission, where I strongly encourage it, but once the mission starts, you only need one person to call the targets, one person to pick the path, one person to choose when and which group to engage. When you're outmatched and outnumbered, anarchy is not a valid strategy.

For guilds, it doesn't matter who the leader is, who the officers are, or whatever. It's the same as above: you have an 8 man group, you make a strategy, and you have one person to lead it.

Rico

Agreed... totally. It's easier to follow only one train of thoughts than three

I've made Thunderhead so many times I think I know which tactics are good and which are not. Both most used tactics are good (Gates & King), but both require the whole team sticking to the same plan, not both at the same time.

For example:
Last run I again encountered the infamous Chaotic plan in action... 1 ranger guy running outside the fort (picking up the loot), both W's at the King (sticking to the plan), Ele's (2 - my Ele as another) handling the catas and 1 ranger & 2 monks trying to hold the gates (even if they were pinged, shouted and guided with arrows on radar to back up to the king). And we did agree on the plan to Guard the King.

That was horrible.

LifeInfusion · Dec 30, 2005, 04:49 AM // 04:49

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Originally Posted by Rico Carridan

Unless you're one of the teams designated tanks, you should be staying out of the aggro circle. Not for yourself, but if you're halfway between the aggro tank and your monks, then the mobs might suddenly run right past you and target the monks or other squishies instead. And honestly, how many high level PvE areas aren't full of enchantment strippers?

A group of 8 people with 3 leaders will never get anywhere. I don't mind discussing strategy, especially before a mission, where I strongly encourage it, but once the mission starts, you only need one person to call the targets, one person to pick the path, one person to choose when and which group to engage. When you're outmatched and outnumbered, anarchy is not a valid strategy.

There are no ward/well strippers. Plus, if you are a secondary warrior or a touch range necro, you NEED to be close. Iwas using armor of earth as an instance in which casters aren't "squishy". People shoudln't run back and forth between the aggro and the casters anyway.

Still, vengeance is more useful (especially before divine intervention was "nerfed").

I agree that monks shouldn't res unless the others do not have res. Of course you want a persistant res if you are /Mo. When I say vengeance when there is an alternate resser I mean if someone else has a permanent res.

You don't want to have too many chiefs and not enough Indians. However, if someone is just as experienced (or more experienced) as the so-called leader, their input could be useful. I am not saying that they should lead if they know what they are doing, there just should be more discussion of tactics, instead of blindly following a supposedly knowledgable person.

This is a democratic, fair, effective system. Leading doesn't mean calling targets/picking groups. Leading means who decides what the group is doing. There should be a group consensus, that way there will be a more effective team.

I pwnd U · Dec 30, 2005, 04:58 AM // 04:58

sad thign these should all be known but most people still dont use them annoys me so much. people please play smart.

Manic Smile · Dec 30, 2005, 08:48 AM // 08:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asplode

pvp and pve:
If your monk doesn't put mending on you, it is your responsibility to let him know, and remind him to put mending on you constantly until mending is on you.

lmao...ouch my sides hurt

Manic Smile · Dec 30, 2005, 08:50 AM // 08:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jas

Mending? No... I won't put mending on you even if you asked for it. It just slows down my energy regeneration and I do need every point of energy to keep you standing up and fighting. That rule might work if the team had at least 2 healing monks. The other could be assistant healer with mending and such nice tricks, but the other must be "reactive"... Word of Healing+Orison of Healing casted one after another on same target has saved many a butt from certain death (ask my Guildees!). And Healing Breeze is quite useful too

W/Mo's use mending... and other ?/Mo's, but I wouldn't recommend for any Mo/?'s to use it.

ohh this one's even better...lmao...i'ma puke

Makkert · Dec 30, 2005, 09:22 AM // 09:22

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Originally Posted by greenlantern

PVP:
Always Bring a Resurrection Signet
.

No.
This is a statement in response to players forgetting to pack Ressurrection Signet. In RA, packing a signet is often a good thing to do, except when you are the monk.. In tombs/gvg, it depends on wether or not your build is suffered bad by it, the res capacity on the whole team. There is no use for 7 or 8 walking res signets.

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Originally Posted by Lost

Monks are not superheroes.

The hell they are! Suupperrrmonkeeyyy to the rescue! It's a bird, it's a plane, it's an orison flying towards you!
....ok, that was lame.......
I like monks, what can you do...

Cartoonhero · Dec 31, 2005, 07:01 AM // 07:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jas

Mending? No... I won't put mending on you even if you asked for it. It just slows down my energy regeneration and I do need every point of energy to keep you standing up and fighting. That rule might work if the team had at least 2 healing monks. The other could be assistant healer with mending and such nice tricks, but the other must be "reactive"... Word of Healing+Orison of Healing casted one after another on same target has saved many a butt from certain death (ask my Guildees!). And Healing Breeze is quite useful too

W/Mo's use mending... and other ?/Mo's, but I wouldn't recommend for any Mo/?'s to use it.

roflmao...sarcasm is lost on you my friend....

Jas · Dec 31, 2005, 02:38 PM // 14:38

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Originally Posted by Cartoonhero

roflmao...sarcasm is lost on you my friend....

Not only sarcasm but life as well

I noticed that writing messages on forum at 7am (after staying up all night) makes my brain work a bit slow. I did not even think the original message I quoted was being sarcastic, cause I've met people who really get mad if I don't equip mending and put it on them... and as I said, I was bit tired atm. Sorry for that.

MysticoN · Dec 31, 2005, 02:58 PM // 14:58

worst thing I know when I make a group/party is when people dont understand their role. F.ex take casters like elementalist or a healer for that sake , when tankers go aggro they just go right behind them not knowing that the enemy will attack them. Its a basic knowledge that tankers takes all the dmg and pulls all the enemy.

Lexar · Dec 31, 2005, 04:47 PM // 16:47

It is generally loathed upon by the community if you don't disconnect on purpose when I am in the opposite team.

Jas · Jan 02, 2006, 12:25 AM // 00:25

Characters with Warrior as a secondary class should always equip a melee weapon and show Primary Warriors how to do tanking, especially if they're the lowest level in the group.

And of course... all the Rangers (no matter what is the secondary prof) must also have a sword at hand at all times. Otherwise they wouldn't be exact copies of Aragorn.

greenlantern · Jan 02, 2006, 04:06 PM // 16:06

No Arguing should be a rule. Debating is alright, but once it cross the line where people are getting upset, causes a group to break apart.
What do you think of this as a rule?

Tetris L · Jan 02, 2006, 05:01 PM // 17:01

Use the trade channel for WTS/WTB spam.

No really, please do. That's what it's there for.

Really.

Jas · Jan 25, 2006, 11:44 PM // 23:44

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Originally Posted by Tetris L

Use the trade channel for WTS/WTB spam.

No really, please do. That's what it's there for.

Really.

I spent my last evening on European servers at Ascalon 1 - English Region YELLING at everybody who used Local-channel for WTS.
I got the district pretty quiet... but it would really require for each district to have one annoying jerk like me reminding spammers to use Trade-channel everytime he/she sees a WTS-add. I did just that... and even now, 5 months later, do I get comments for that 1 evening (and most of them are not very nice). I admit, I was a complete *** that evening

I think the best way to reduce the amount of spam would be to buy only from those who do use Trade-channel, thus encouraging it's use. I usually have Local & Trade ticked off and when I want to buy something, I tick on Trade (not Local, that's opened only when I'm bored and looking for newbies in need of help).

Teufel Eldritch · Jan 26, 2006, 12:14 AM // 00:14

Hmmm I use Rebirth sometimes during battle(PvE)...then again I know what I am doing & only use it when it is appropiate to do so. "But Teufel...you won't have any energy!" Yes I will... I use Offering of Blood.

If you have 2 Monks(1 w/OoB & the other to heal the rezzed person) rezzing with Rebirth is not that big of a deal.... thing is... most ppl that do rez w/Rebirth in battle do it stupidly, so I can see where this rule would apply...generally.

Personally tho I prefer to rez ppl with my Mez as a Monks energy/life is more important than mine, the Monk can do other things & with Fast Casting I can get them up quicker.

Manda Panda · Jan 26, 2006, 02:53 AM // 02:53

If a team is looking for someone to fill a certain role (battery necro, bond monk, whatever) and you have no idea what it means, don't try to fake it. They can tell when you aren't using the appropriate skill(s). Either ask, or don't try to join.

Kook~NBK~ · Jan 26, 2006, 04:02 AM // 04:02

Only thing I can say is in PvE let the Ranger pull! (Or someone with a longbow.) My warrior has a longbow just for the purpose of pulling enemies, It only does 1 or 2 damage, but it's enough to get the critter's attention and bring them away from any other nearby mobs, which is the whole point of pulling anyway!

Caged Fury · Jan 26, 2006, 01:43 PM // 13:43

When someone draws a line, cross, arrow, etc. or pings on the radar, it is to bring the party's attention to something. It could be the route to go, where to stop and wait, the mob to attack, the mob to avoid, etc. It is not the 'GO!' code to start pinging continuously or doddling rubbish on the radar. The radar is a useful tool to help co-ordinate and plan, it is not an Etch-A-Sketch for showing off your genital drawing talent.

Cronos Khan · Jan 26, 2006, 04:01 PM // 16:01

Never request a blind trade with someone becuase simply you will get annoyed and confused. All 40k you buy?

oh yes, and we do not talk about Fight Club...